Don't Move To Vancouver

  • Posted by Jeff
  • Filed in City
  • February 28, 2007

feb_27_07_crappyvancouver.jpgI love Vancouver. I moved here five years ago and have no plans to leave. But it ain't all sunshine and daisies for everyone. Why not?

Real Estate - It can be cripplingly expensive to own a place here, and once you do it's hard to just sit back and enjoy it because there's a good chance that you will:
a) turn into one of those dinks who's always talking about real estate.
b) take flak from your peers for "conforming".
c) be subjected to pissing contests by the aforementioned dinks who desperately want to know if they have "out-invested" you.
d) a combination of the above.

Sluggery - Assertive go-getters beware! Vancouver is somewhat of a gathering place for slackers from across the country, the result being that the average ambition level in Vancouver resides well below that of any city that I've spent time in. Including the Ontario town of population 7,500 where I grew up. A welcome change of pace? An infuriating exercise in patience and tolerance? Decide for yourself.

The Olympics - Vancouver residents have been awarded the privilege of watching in shock and awe while our city and province throw away hundreds of millions of our tax dollars on a tacky party that most of us won't attend and is basically guaranteed to lose money. What can we look forward to in return? Reduced funding for vital social and health services, astronomical real estate prices, accelerated gentrification, and to be treated like unwanted stepchildren in February 2010. Extra bonus points for anyone who owns a business on Cambie Street.

Drug-Fuelled Rougery - No surprises here. Leave something in plain sight in your car? Might as well throw it in the garbage and then smash your car window yourself. Also part and parcel of Vancouver's vibrant street-drug trade are the gun-toting thugs who will shoot you dead if you let on that you know how insecure and pathetic they are.

The VPD - I'm a pretty clean-living guy who's had minimal dealings with the law. One ticket for speeding, one for an illegal right turn, a handful of verbal warnings for skating downtown Toronto, and that's about it. I have friends and parents of friends who are/were cops. I've never had a deep-seated dislike for the police. But it's different here. You've got to watch it with some of these Vancouver cops... they'll kick your ass. Everyone's seen it. It sure makes me stay the hell away from them if I see them, maybe that's their strategy.

Small city = less to do - Just like the Toronto and Montreal people tell us, compare our scenes and Vancouver comes out pretty poorly. We're a small city after all, what do we have to lay claim to really? Blasphemy's reign of terror... 20+ skateparks... Malcolm Lowry wrote Under the Volcano here... The Vancouver International Jazz Festival... 3 local ski hills... Strapping Young Lad... The Bowl Series... Music Waste... John Fluevog... the Whisky quadrilogy... DOA... Black Mountain... the best mountain bike trails in the world... The Barrier Kult... Douglas Coupland... wait... what was I saying?

The Mouldy Sponge Factor - The stereotypical Vancouver gripe. There are times when you might not see the sun for two weeks. Fashionistas are faced with the harsh reality that Gore-Tex is functional. Your house and car will have moss and mould growing on them. This is likely a large part of why Vancouver is still considerably cheaper than San Francisco.

ETC....

Garbage pile photo courtesy of D'Arcy Norman.

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Sweet list! And you didn't even feel obligated to take potshots at hippy types.

Posted by: statusq at February 28, 2007 10:07 AM | Quote Comment

Some of them could be filed under "Sluggery".

Posted by: Jeff Author Profile Page at February 28, 2007 10:30 AM | Quote Comment

How about someone writes something about how great this city is? Over the past six months, I fell in love with Vancouver all over again, and I've been discovering the little things about this town that make it my home. As much as I love BR, the writers here make me doubt my love for my hometown.

Posted by: Adam at February 28, 2007 10:50 AM | Quote Comment

Yup, good list for sure. Nice on the scenario b on the real estate. not sure about the cops thing though. maybe its because you're a skater, never had trouble with them my whole life living here. skaters normally deserved to get smacked down by the cops anyhow, dont they? ;p

Posted by: BOON at February 28, 2007 10:52 AM | Quote Comment

RE: the small city = less to do thing. the outdoor thing is well known and documented but ive always heard so and so city is so much better but usu. that is in comparing vancouver to a larger city and it usu refers to the night life but night life is normally proportional to the size of the city. toronto is bigger than vancouver, toronto has more night things to do and see. there is no need to compare van to nyc. montreal though, i think the city size or population might be quite comparable now but the arts scene is def more known, established, etc in montreal, right? but we always got stuff they or other cities dont have too.....i think its normally a grass is greener type thing though.

Posted by: BOON at February 28, 2007 10:58 AM | Quote Comment

Hey Adam, take a closer look.

On BOON's police subject... I've surprisingly had no problems while skating, but I've seen some sketchy law enforcement behaviour on the street. Like watching a guy with a cane get pepper-sprayed by cops until his head was orange because he was trying to pull off the guy who was attacking his girlfriend. No questions asked, the cops just ran in spraying. And how about that clip on national news a few years ago of the guy getting his teeth caved in with a blindside baton crosscheck to the face... or Jeff Berg getting pistol-whipped to death in an alley...

Posted by: Jeff Author Profile Page at February 28, 2007 12:26 PM | Quote Comment

I'm not saying I don't see these things. I absolutely see them every day. There are a lot of things wrong with this city, but there's a lot of things wrong with London, Toronto, Chicago, Los Angeles, New Haven, Vienna, Phnom Penh, Tokyo, Nairobi, and any other important city on the planet. There's also a lot of great things about each one, too. The news and the blogs are usually so negative; I wish we'd all take a little bit more pride and a sense of appreciation in where we live.

Okay, I'm done sounding like a kindergarten teacher. Promise.

Posted by: Adam at February 28, 2007 1:10 PM | Quote Comment

No no, I mean take a closer look at the post. There's a whole list of things that are great about Vancouver. It's just in disguise.

Posted by: Jeff Author Profile Page at February 28, 2007 2:12 PM | Quote Comment

I like Vancouver but I take it for what it really is, just a small, northwest town.

When I hear someone describe it as 'cosmopolitian', I just laugh.

Don't expect much from this town, don't get much.

There's alot of talk and no action.

Posted by: Colin at February 28, 2007 4:39 PM | Quote Comment

I think the whole bigger city = bigger nightlife thing is a load of hooey.
Victoria is a teeny town, and the nightlife almost disturbingly wild. I've never gotten into so much trouble in Vancouver (or New York, or London, or Montreal, or LA...) as I did in Vic, and the lounges, clubs and restaurants are fantastic and hard to top. Could also be because you meet so many folks and you get that small-town cohesiveness, and I haven't had that feeling here in Van.

Posted by: terri at February 28, 2007 5:19 PM | Quote Comment

haha - the real estate bit is hilarious!

Posted by: bcneocon at February 28, 2007 10:43 PM | Quote Comment

vancouver's nice. i too grew up here but certainly feel no excessive loyalty. depending on who you are and how much money you have, vancouver's very nice. but i agree with all of your points jeff. all is so not well in la la land. sure, lots of cities have similar problems but they don't try so hard to pretend they don't exist. vancouver does, dtes, highest HIV infection rate, poorest postal code in canada and all. "not for long!" says vancouver, "we're cleaning it up!" for who? the people who can afford "gastown" condos and tickets to the olympics.

maybe i'm just bored and it's time to move again.

Posted by: gi at March 1, 2007 12:57 AM | Quote Comment

"haha - the real estate bit is hilarious!"

It's so true too. Nine times out of ten if it's not, "you paid how much?! For this?! Do you realize what you could have bought in Chilliwack/Surrey/New West/Winnipeg?!", then it's, "you paid how much?! Too bad you didn't buy when I did... blah blah blah..."

Posted by: Jeff Author Profile Page at March 1, 2007 12:21 PM | Quote Comment

You say the olympics "is basically guaranteed to lose money." Who says everything we do has to make money. If you through a party do you expect to make money on it? I personally plan to valunteer at it and attend events. You could to. The worst thing about vancouver was not on your list... the whiney complainers.

Posted by: Paul at March 2, 2007 2:25 PM | Quote Comment

sorry about my spelling

Posted by: paul at March 2, 2007 2:26 PM | Quote Comment

Another thing I didn't add to the list was the people who take obvious jokes seriously.

And no, I've definitely never experienced a net financial gain from throwing a party. But I've also never sent my crippled roomie out of town for the event or tried to convince any housemates that throwing the party would result in anything more than a fun evening followed by an afternoon spent cleaning up a horrendous mess.

Posted by: Jeff Author Profile Page at March 2, 2007 4:00 PM | Quote Comment

The Olympics are a sporting event designed to bring the world's best athletes together to compete. Nothing more, notjing less. To repeat: it's a sporting clear and simple. No one in the organizing committee is trying to make anyone money - they are trying to put on a couple of months of sporting events. Anyone who says they are a means toward profit are lying to you. I don't recall VANOC using the word profit. They say "legacy" so they are not misunderstood. Unfortunately in Vancouver misunderstanding will be the Vancouver Olympic legacy.

I have to repeat: Do you get me? From day one this has been about putting on a large scale sporting event involving the world's best athletes. That's what was decided. Every single arguement for or against I have seen inevitably involves the questions: "are we gonna lose or gain money on this" or "why can't I have the money instead for my cause?" These are issues rhat have been dreamed up after the fact.

Posted by: bcneocon at March 3, 2007 2:24 AM | Quote Comment

sorry for the typos, i wish BR would allow me to edit my posts.

Posted by: bcneocon at March 3, 2007 2:27 AM | Quote Comment

I've only been here for 2 plus years but I do like it. There are certainly a lot worse places to live compared to here.

And every so often you get some incredible million dollar views...

I guess we need to figure out how to capitalize on the negs and turn them into money makers instead..

Posted by: expatraveler at March 3, 2007 5:15 PM | Quote Comment

I think your article is hilarious! TRULY hilarious - these exagerated tones - ha ha
By Jove I think you've got it!

Lived in Vancouver my whole life. Great city, beautiful city but don't come here to make money or meet ambitious people. Its really just ambitious milioinares who need to spend/invest that have all the money. This is a vacation city with a reasonable economy not Toronto. The outrageous/oversale of our city is stereotypical of modern times and media hype.
"Use this, eat this and your life will change.. makes me sick, makes me want to puke, makes me want to reach out and ...wait a minute, I'm gonna miss the sunset, the last hour of light to get outside and enjoy .
Lets face it this is a beautiful, artsy, somewhat sleepy city that used to be affordable and now its overmarketed, overpriced and becoming somewhat unbarable if it continues this way. I hope it doesn't! I wish investers would go maybe we shoud be mean, show our fangs and scare them?
No no we must watch Cambell have his tea party and clap, clap, clap!

Posted by: P.N. at March 4, 2007 12:34 AM | Quote Comment

BC Neocon says the Olympics are about sports, nothing more and nothing less? Can we say "delusional"?

Uh, just to back that up, is it a coincidence that Project Civil City is to be implemented 2010? Vancouver cops go for gold!

Posted by: statusq at March 4, 2007 1:06 PM | Quote Comment

Ah, I don't know why I bother - every disaffected youth in the land now equates the Olympics with 'the epitome of every thing that is evil, foisted upon us by old white guys in suits'.

Say statusq where did you stash the flag?

Posted by: bcneocon at March 7, 2007 12:00 AM | Quote Comment

Google Republic +VANOC +Olympic +protest -- The Republic of East Vancouver has the only honest article about the protest 2 weeks ago.

What totally embarrassed me were the security guards who just stood there with their mouths open as three protestors leaped on the stage, and did their comedy routine before being haul to jail.

A fellow with a mask basically screamed "Fuck your Olympics!"

VPD totally failed.

They also precipitated a mini riot by tering down a banner the protestors hoisted.

The news media basically took their news from the police. There was no unbiased news coveraged at all.

This is just like the news release embargo of Betty Krawcyk.

Did you know the BC government not only killed Eagleridge Bluff but also Hannah Nahanee?? Yep, Olympics 2010 is murdering the environment and protestors.

Posted by: Steve at March 7, 2007 5:52 PM | Quote Comment

Vancouver is still better then Calgary.

Posted by: vanessa at March 8, 2007 10:35 AM | Quote Comment

The unfriendly people are the worst, but since no one here is from here I can't blame that on Vancouver.

Posted by: michael sean morris at March 12, 2007 5:02 PM | Quote Comment

I'm in agreement with the one who laughs when this place is called "cosmopolitan." This city is a wannabe that has lost all realistic expectations of itself. That was a funny and well-written article.

Posted by: Gwen at March 13, 2007 12:50 PM | Quote Comment


no city with liquor laws like vancouver's will ever be able to hold it's own on the world stage.

Posted by: oat at March 22, 2007 1:16 AM | Quote Comment

I HATE VANCOUVER.

Nothing to do. No culture. No one cares about anything. No passion. Everything is fifth rate pretending it is first rate.
People are users, materialistic or lazy. No art of conversation in Vancouver. They only talk about drugs, money, food, square feet and the gym.
Unhappy, dull people. Humourless. Rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain

Posted by: Caroline at March 23, 2007 7:18 PM | Quote Comment

Nice! An authentic rant from someone in the throes of Seasonal Affective Disorder. I was waiting for that. This is what Vancouver winters are all about. Thanks Caroline. Sounds like you've only been to Yaletown though.

Posted by: Jeff Author Profile Page at March 24, 2007 12:47 PM | Quote Comment

I'm with Caroline - I hate Vancouver and can't wait to escape its monotonous mind-numbing weather, boring people, and highly overpriced everything! Although this is probably the best city to live in within Canada, that is saying absolutely nothing! I had more social activity, made more money, and had more fun adventures in 3 years of living in Southern California than 2 decades of rotting away in Vancouver. (yes I would go back if I could arrange it!) The only people who think Vancouver is great have to be people who have not travelled outside of Canada and are plainly ignorant of how we're all paying through the nose for the privilege of living in a depressing, life energy-sucking, culturally empty little town. How's that for a rant!: 0

Posted by: Tracy at April 11, 2007 2:39 PM | Quote Comment

This is definatley not the best city to live in Canada, I was born here and can't wait to escape. How dare people support those lame license plates "best place on earth" what is that! embarrassing, Vancouver is a city with no soul, no class and nothing to do unless you hike or ride a bike. People here don't support the arts, they support huge SUV's and bad fashion. i feel sorry for the people that think that this is the best there is, man they need to hop on a plane and go to Europe or South America, not LAs Vegas or Hawaii like most lame Amercian loving people here.

Phew that felt good!

Posted by: kelly at May 12, 2008 3:17 PM | Quote Comment

Vancouver is a fine place for most of china to blend right in and feel at home.
Remember little BC carbon tax paying . globe saving , UBC art degree carrying socialista...you are IT.

Sure there are about 6 white people actually born in Vancouver living in Vancouver somewhere on Kits..everyone else commutes in from HOPE and works for Asians when they finally arrive .

The good news?

The place is supposed to slip into the ocean along with San Fran , Seattle and LA.

Posted by: Bob at July 3, 2008 2:25 PM | Quote Comment

One last thing about Vancouver which holds true for Montreal as well ...

What do you call a large group of armed, socialist , multicultural, bilingual, bisexual men with guns ...

Killing Unarmed , Caucasian , heterosexual , mono-lingual conservatives at CYVR Arrivals ?

Situation NORMAL ..welcome to lotus land.

(psssst...post a news article of the RCMP ever killing a third world gang member with a gun ) snicker snicker ...

The Svend Robbinson cookie cutter shape ...is what the RCMP use to hire "members" with ...LOL

GO pay your global warming tax and leave me alone ...thanks .

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL ....gawd I hope those 2010 games crash and burn baby ...if there is any justice in the world whistler will burn to the ground ...

Posted by: Bob at July 5, 2008 6:32 AM | Quote Comment

Correction to last post...sorry. Line 3 should read ...

".......Killing unarmed , SOBER , Caucasian , Heterosexual , mono lingual , POVERTY STRICKEN POLISH SLUM DWELLING , CONSERVATIVES at CYVR Arrivals?"

Thanks very much ..I for one will never pay taxes of any type E V E R in the Land of the weird , British Columbia ..

Posted by: Bob at July 5, 2008 7:08 AM | Quote Comment

What do you call a:
"Multicultural, bilingual, white male with an English Degree from UBC"

(unlike the dead guy at CYVR who was described by RCMP and CBC as a :
"poverty stricken polish slum dweller" )

What do you call a white male From Vancouver "Teaching English" in Thailand to little boys?

Jail Bait :)


Posted by: Bob at July 6, 2008 7:28 AM | Quote Comment

I hate this city. Im moving once I find somewhere I actually want to live.

I hate that the houses here, they are built with cheap shit materials. There owned by more then likely illegal immigrants. My house is actually owned by people how live in Hong Kong. It disgusts me. Its moulding and run down and who every the hired to "renovate" the house didnt know what the hell they were doing. Every house here gets built and chopped up into 5 different apartments. And dont say "if you dont like your house then move out" because you cant find a decent home here with out it ripping you a new ass hole.
I dont give a shit about the Olympics. Its a waste on my money, and Im pissed I have to pay for it.
This city has a different disgusting smell on every other block.

Posted by: Jerry at July 21, 2008 4:49 PM | Quote Comment

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