Some of them could be filed under "Sluggery".

Yup, good list for sure. Nice on the scenario b on the real estate. not sure about the cops thing though. maybe its because you're a skater, never had trouble with them my whole life living here. skaters normally deserved to get smacked down by the cops anyhow, dont they? ;p

Hey Adam, take a closer look.

On BOON's police subject... I've surprisingly had no problems while skating, but I've seen some sketchy law enforcement behaviour on the street. Like watching a guy with a cane get pepper-sprayed by cops until his head was orange because he was trying to pull off the guy who was attacking his girlfriend. No questions asked, the cops just ran in spraying. And how about that clip on national news a few years ago of the guy getting his teeth caved in with a blindside baton crosscheck to the face... or Jeff Berg getting pistol-whipped to death in an alley...

No no, I mean take a closer look at the post. There's a whole list of things that are great about Vancouver. It's just in disguise.

I think the whole bigger city = bigger nightlife thing is a load of hooey.
Victoria is a teeny town, and the nightlife almost disturbingly wild. I've never gotten into so much trouble in Vancouver (or New York, or London, or Montreal, or LA...) as I did in Vic, and the lounges, clubs and restaurants are fantastic and hard to top. Could also be because you meet so many folks and you get that small-town cohesiveness, and I haven't had that feeling here in Van.

vancouver's nice. i too grew up here but certainly feel no excessive loyalty. depending on who you are and how much money you have, vancouver's very nice. but i agree with all of your points jeff. all is so not well in la la land. sure, lots of cities have similar problems but they don't try so hard to pretend they don't exist. vancouver does, dtes, highest HIV infection rate, poorest postal code in canada and all. "not for long!" says vancouver, "we're cleaning it up!" for who? the people who can afford "gastown" condos and tickets to the olympics.

maybe i'm just bored and it's time to move again.

You say the olympics "is basically guaranteed to lose money." Who says everything we do has to make money. If you through a party do you expect to make money on it? I personally plan to valunteer at it and attend events. You could to. The worst thing about vancouver was not on your list... the whiney complainers.

Another thing I didn't add to the list was the people who take obvious jokes seriously.

And no, I've definitely never experienced a net financial gain from throwing a party. But I've also never sent my crippled roomie out of town for the event or tried to convince any housemates that throwing the party would result in anything more than a fun evening followed by an afternoon spent cleaning up a horrendous mess.

sorry for the typos, i wish BR would allow me to edit my posts.

I think your article is hilarious! TRULY hilarious - these exagerated tones - ha ha
By Jove I think you've got it!

Lived in Vancouver my whole life. Great city, beautiful city but don't come here to make money or meet ambitious people. Its really just ambitious milioinares who need to spend/invest that have all the money. This is a vacation city with a reasonable economy not Toronto. The outrageous/oversale of our city is stereotypical of modern times and media hype.
"Use this, eat this and your life will change.. makes me sick, makes me want to puke, makes me want to reach out and ...wait a minute, I'm gonna miss the sunset, the last hour of light to get outside and enjoy .
Lets face it this is a beautiful, artsy, somewhat sleepy city that used to be affordable and now its overmarketed, overpriced and becoming somewhat unbarable if it continues this way. I hope it doesn't! I wish investers would go maybe we shoud be mean, show our fangs and scare them?
No no we must watch Cambell have his tea party and clap, clap, clap!

Ah, I don't know why I bother - every disaffected youth in the land now equates the Olympics with 'the epitome of every thing that is evil, foisted upon us by old white guys in suits'.

Say statusq where did you stash the flag?

Vancouver is still better then Calgary.

I'm in agreement with the one who laughs when this place is called "cosmopolitan." This city is a wannabe that has lost all realistic expectations of itself. That was a funny and well-written article.

I HATE VANCOUVER.

Nothing to do. No culture. No one cares about anything. No passion. Everything is fifth rate pretending it is first rate.
People are users, materialistic or lazy. No art of conversation in Vancouver. They only talk about drugs, money, food, square feet and the gym.
Unhappy, dull people. Humourless. Rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain

I'm with Caroline - I hate Vancouver and can't wait to escape its monotonous mind-numbing weather, boring people, and highly overpriced everything! Although this is probably the best city to live in within Canada, that is saying absolutely nothing! I had more social activity, made more money, and had more fun adventures in 3 years of living in Southern California than 2 decades of rotting away in Vancouver. (yes I would go back if I could arrange it!) The only people who think Vancouver is great have to be people who have not travelled outside of Canada and are plainly ignorant of how we're all paying through the nose for the privilege of living in a depressing, life energy-sucking, culturally empty little town. How's that for a rant!: 0

Vancouver is a fine place for most of china to blend right in and feel at home.
Remember little BC carbon tax paying . globe saving , UBC art degree carrying socialista...you are IT.

Sure there are about 6 white people actually born in Vancouver living in Vancouver somewhere on Kits..everyone else commutes in from HOPE and works for Asians when they finally arrive .

The good news?

The place is supposed to slip into the ocean along with San Fran , Seattle and LA.

Correction to last post...sorry. Line 3 should read ...

".......Killing unarmed , SOBER , Caucasian , Heterosexual , mono lingual , POVERTY STRICKEN POLISH SLUM DWELLING , CONSERVATIVES at CYVR Arrivals?"

Thanks very much ..I for one will never pay taxes of any type E V E R in the Land of the weird , British Columbia ..

I hate this city. Im moving once I find somewhere I actually want to live.

I hate that the houses here, they are built with cheap shit materials. There owned by more then likely illegal immigrants. My house is actually owned by people how live in Hong Kong. It disgusts me. Its moulding and run down and who every the hired to "renovate" the house didnt know what the hell they were doing. Every house here gets built and chopped up into 5 different apartments. And dont say "if you dont like your house then move out" because you cant find a decent home here with out it ripping you a new ass hole.
I dont give a shit about the Olympics. Its a waste on my money, and Im pissed I have to pay for it.
This city has a different disgusting smell on every other block.

I Just moved here from Calgary and after 8 months, I am so depressed here, the city is cold and there is absolutely no multiculturalism (unless you call the sole Asian population multiculural).

There are rarely no ther people from other countries here! I came here for school at UBC and I HATE HATE HATE going to UBC (University of a Billion Chinese)! I am used to seeing and interracting with people from the Middle East, Africa, Brazil, El Salvador, Somalia, Ethiopia, Czech Republic, Serbia, Lebanon e.t.c, I miss having and knowing people from all cultures and backgrounds, I wish I had listened to people tell me not to move to HongCouver! I wish I had a time machine and I could go back and just go to school at U of C or U of A! Now it's too late, I don't want to go back with my head down in shame, I should have listened, Vancouver is a deceptive city, Beautiful at times yes, but within it, the people here are soooooooooo cold, materialistic and miserable, there's no joy here, I am depressed and riding out 1.5 more year of school before I leave this Yuppie, lonely lonely cold and miserably depressing place! My next destination, either Alberta or Chicago, only time will tell. DEFINITELY NOT STAYING OR APPLYING TO JOBS IN HONGCOUVER AFTER I GRADUATE!

Darcy not all Asians are from the same country... Heck, I work in a place where I talk to people from the Caribbean, Isreal, England, Vietnam, Crete and of course China.

I'm surprised you made it to University with those type of analytical skills.

I've talk to people from all over the world in this city and by far Vancouver is much more multicultural than most cities out there.

Now, Vancouver in my mind is defined as a outdoor city, if you don't enjoy that then it's probably not the right city for you. That competes with the nightlife which for a city of this size is OK at best.

All in all Vancouver is a bit over-hyped, but as for "living standards" as in not "fun standards" which everyone is basing this on. It's a pretty good city. Houses are too expensive, but rents aren't bad if you live outside of Vancouver central. Outskirts and Eastside are normal.

I always ask someone who lived else where "why they like Vancouver, it's nothing special". They just say it's a comfortable place to live.

For the record New York rains more, but we have generally have more cloudy days.

I doubt anyone would read this as most posts just seem like random venting.

Hey Tyler,

that is a sad story, but that's how this city is. People here don't care about anything but themselves. They don't even care about their surroundings, unless it is their 2 million dollar home. I unfortunately have lived here my whole life, and I have no real close friends. I don't feel like I belong and I'm glad, the people in this city are just not worldly and the sad thing is that they think they are. Me and my partner have the wheels in motion to finally escape this prison I hope you get to too....soon!

Hello everyone! I am so happy that I am not alone in feeling this way...I made the unfortunate mistake of moving back here 2 years ago and can't wait to leave again. This time I know I will never ever come back. The people are unbelievably ignorant, unfriendly, narcissistic, and just generally not very interesting! Culture?? Hah! it makes me sad that the people here just don't know any better and refuse to even attempt to see things differently..it is so true that I used to be called an "LA cunt" by my "good friends" here for 10 years until one of them actually went to La and said how fun and cool it was! Wow...They diss everything and anyone that isn't in their little clique and don't ever even try and see what's on the other side..they just breed misery and contempt and won't be happy until you are as miserable and defeated as they really feel deep inside.

I have successfully deleted everyone I have ever known here and not only will I never talk to them again I hope to forget that they even existed.

I feel sorry for the few good people here that are stuck and can't leave but I will always have an extra bed ready in Amsterdam for the people who need to get away and experience a different place and culture and actually meet nice and friendly people who are not out to screw them over or sponge off them till they are a dried and whithered shell of a human.

Shame on you Vancouver! You have fallen...and you will never even see it as you exemplify what Carl Jung calls "projecting the shadow".....you have no faults its just everyone else...

Good Riddance you pathetic excuse for a city!

don't forget the anti-business culture as well.

Hear you, Jocelyn, I'm astonished by your post actually. You've made a quite dare post about your thoughts about this city preparing for a grave and making feel like a dead here.

There are others who feel the same way and I even was thinking myself on several occasions that I had probably died somehow without noticing it, like that guy in the 6th sense and had got to my limbo or hell which is this city.

Also, I've noticed at some point I started thinking that this place is somehow "occult", like there's some bad energy here, like on an indian burial ground or smth.

I don't understand how some people can function here and seem to be happy, I think they lack certain perception. Probably, people who notice that this place is creepy are like those certain sensitive animals in the herd that should warn the rest of approaching or hidden danger. Others may be unaware, but many already look like monsters here.

You are right, it looks like either I'm dead or they're dead, some look like ghosts out of the mist of people died in 1930's or 1950's. Largely reminds me of movies the shining, the others or the 6th sense. These people here give me creeps. This place also reminds me of the place they stuck in the langoliers movie - space/time hole where everything begins to rot and fade away.

Get out from here for God's sake, this goes to nowhere, this city will eat your soul! There's something very dark here..

Jocelyn,

Thanks for that. I did get out and have been enjoying my life every day since I left. It just saddens me that I left a bunch of people like myself and you behind to get their life sucked out by the vampires that rule Vancouver.

I lived in Vancouver for my whole life and I had to get out. I'm sooooo happy! I love Toronto. It's the best choice I ever made. I feel like I'm living for the first time. That place is such a dream killer. Beautiful? YES! That's it. If you are ready to retire, move to Vancouver. It's a slow death over there.

Vancouver? NO!:

I lived in Vancouver for my whole life and I had to get out. I'm sooooo happy! I love Toronto. It's the best choice I ever made. I feel like I'm living for the first time. That place is such a dream killer. Beautiful? YES! That's it. If you are ready to retire, move to Vancouver. It's a slow death over there.

.... I have to Agree with you 100% .... Vancouver is not a good place! ... Toronto ROCKKSS!! .. No city can be compared to Toronto!! ... Its amazing because the nightlife is awseme .. with beautiful multiculturalism! ... its a great experience because you have friends from all over the world!! .. i dont know what people like abt Vancouver .. because to me it just seems like theres nothing in it! But i love Toronto!

GO TORONTO!

I have been back to visit Vancouver a couple times since I moved away (to visit an old friend) and I'm so glad I don't live there anymore. People are sooooo shallow it's sick! The same people were still doing their rounds on Robson showing off their cars, boobs, or whatever... It's still a pretty city, good weather but, what does it matter if the people suck? If you don't grow up there or are not swimming in cash, it will be very hard to meet people. Vancouverites are very, very fake and fickle.

No thanks:

I have been back to visit Vancouver a couple times since I moved away (to visit an old friend) and I'm so glad I don't live there anymore. People are sooooo shallow it's sick! The same people were still doing their rounds on Robson showing off their cars, boobs, or whatever... It's still a pretty city, good weather but, what does it matter if the people suck? If you don't grow up there or are not swimming in cash, it will be very hard to meet people. Vancouverites are very, very fake and fickle.

Totally agree. I live here and I can't stand the vast majority of the people. I don't like their attitudes either. For exactly the same reasons that you do. I've never seen people whom you can't even smile at without getting a hostile glare back. Very materialistic. Very cold. Very unfriendly. Very immature and unsophisticated, IMHO. Very shallow and provincial. People just wanna take from you and don't wanna give anything back. So much theft in this city. Sleaze and dishonesty. Maybe it has something to do with all that rain. The other day I just smiled at someone's dog, proceeded to pet it, and I got this really angry retort not to touch their dog. But the dog didn't seem to mind. Just the fvking owner. So dogs are preferable company to keep in this city than people. That's probably why there are so pet owners around town. Or another time was in line at a supermarket, a lady was buying an interesting brand frozen pizza which I'd never seen before, and so I asked her if tasted good and worth buying, and all I get is a snarky sneer from the B*tch as if I was trying to come on to her and pick her up. Another thing, there's so many b*tches around here compared with other cities I've been to.

I'm glad I never bought real estate here, and I hope to leave this city within the next five years and go somewhere else for good.

Wow, I definitely did not expect the venom to still be flying almost three years after I wrote this post.

I still dig it here... eight years and counting.

James:

Vancouver is at first glance a beautiful city. It is surrounded by sweeping vistas and a dramatic skyline. The climate is moderate. Spend some time here and scratch the surface and it becomes far less attractive. It is a city that is divided politically, it is parochial, narrow minded and shallow. The people are characterless, flakey and disingenuous. Vancouver is the scam capital of N. America, a skill set for which the local population is particularly adept.
The are times when I am certain that Vancouver is something straight out of Conrad's Heart of Darkness. It is a cold place. People in the same business do not interact of share information they do not network or help each other. There is an almost a Darwinian or Hobbesian social culture. Vancouver is a empty void.
The criminal element is growing. The black economy is larger than most people realize. It is the only city in N America where you will find someone begging on just about every street corner in the downtown core. The cities east end has rates of HIV infection that rival that of Africa. The political environment is polarized and doctrinaire. The left adheres to ideas that are at least a generation out of date. Vancouverites think that Naomi Klein is an intellectual when in reality she is a very silly charlatan. To Vancouverites The Secret is a serious work of self help. The right is equally foolish in the banality of their free market ideology. You don't meet people of substance here. You meet flakes. The press is dominated by yellow journalism. Rarely if ever have I read a real piece of investigative journalism. You do not meet people who form their opinions based upon facts. When you encounter Vancouverites and engage them in the discussion of social issues the argument usually become circular and they end of talking only about themselves. There is a kind of deep insecurity that comes from profound feeling of self loathing that is hard wired into the political culture here. Narcissism is the dominate religion and real estate speculation the holy grail. It is without doubt one of the most dreary and boring places I have ever had the misfortune to call home.

James:

Vancouver is at first glance a beautiful city. It is surrounded by sweeping vistas and a dramatic skyline. The climate is moderate. Spend some time here and scratch the surface and it becomes far less attractive. It is a city that is divided politically, it is parochial, narrow minded and shallow. The people are characterless, flakey and disingenuous. Vancouver is the scam capital of N. America, a skill set for which the local population is particularly adept.
The are times when I am certain that Vancouver is something straight out of Conrad's Heart of Darkness. It is a cold place. People in the same business do not interact of share information they do not network or help each other. There is an almost a Darwinian or Hobbesian social culture. Vancouver is a empty void.
The criminal element is growing. The black economy is larger than most people realize. It is the only city in N America where you will find someone begging on just about every street corner in the downtown core. The cities east end has rates of HIV infection that rival that of Africa. The political environment is polarized and doctrinaire. The left adheres to ideas that are at least a generation out of date. Vancouverites think that Naomi Klein is an intellectual when in reality she is a very silly charlatan. To Vancouverites The Secret is a serious work of self help. The right is equally foolish in the banality of their free market ideology. You don't meet people of substance here. You meet flakes. The press is dominated by yellow journalism. Rarely if ever have I read a real piece of investigative journalism. You do not meet people who form their opinions based upon facts. When you encounter Vancouverites and engage them in the discussion of social issues the argument usually become circular and they end of talking only about themselves. There is a kind of deep insecurity that comes from profound feeling of self loathing that is hard wired into the political culture here. Narcissism is the dominate religion and real estate speculation the holy grail. It is without doubt one of the most dreary and boring places I have ever had the misfortune to call home.

James, & the rest that are of similar opinion, I agree 100 percent. You are bang on.
I too hate this shit place that I've had the misfortune of calling home for the past ten years. I too will move, prob back to Ontario, in the very near future. Quality people are so hard to meet out here, the only decent people I've met have all been transplants like myself & they all have moved back from where they came. Hopefully, I'm next.

I hate this dump with a passion because:

(1) people are a pretentious and insincere lot, and

(2) their justice system is an injustice to all but the rich and the famous.

(3) the

I just came accross this blog typing "how to meet people in Vancouver"
I have to say that I agree with all the comments i read above! At a point I was wondering if there was something wrong with me?! but no, this city really sucks!! I am sociable, i have been living abroad for the past 3 years, so I am used to meeting new people. Here, you just can't. Yes Vancouverites are very polite, but they are not open-minded, they are not laid back. Above all, they are mean.
And this is true that it is a dark city. Whenever i take the bus, I can feel this loneliness in so many people, like "I need some friends, I need a life"!
I will try again to find some good things for the last months i have to spend here, but I think I will be glad to leave, and hang out again with some grumpy but authentic people.

I am a Californian who has lived in Sacramento, San Fransisco, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, San Diego and other various cities throughout the state as well as Germany and Las Vegas. I moved from Anaheim to Calgary to be with my then partner and now wife (we are lesbians) 2 yrs ago and hated it with a passion of a thousand suns just after a about 2 weeks. I was homesick beyond belief like never before in my life and it didn't go away until the day we packed up our truck and I drove the 12 hrs straight here to the Vancouver Region 3 weeks ago so my wife could start her job working for VANOC.

My ideal place to live is the Bay Area somewhere close to San Francisco. My wife and I WOULD live there if gay marriage was Federal US law and the US economy wasn't in such a horrible state BUT if you are from the West Coast and miss it, there is probably no better place to live in Canada then Vancouver.

The rents are high just like home where you can't even rent a closet for less then 1k a month, and the views are spectacular. Theres good people, bad people, smart people, dumb people, interesting people, boring people and everything in between just like home. Theres even real freeways with carpools lanes just like home. Theres mountains and ocean and beaches just like home. Theres stunning skylines and 24 HR everything just like home.

Theres pros and cons but from what I'm seeing, the pros def outweigh the cons in living here and the little annoying troubles like searching for decent and reasonably priced apts are worth it to me when I can leave my window open at night and fall asleep to the sound of the rain or have such a beautiful drive over bridges to work everyday (your worst traffic is a lovely picnic compared to traffic in large California cities) and breathe the clean crisp air and go to the ocean whenever I want and not have to drive through ice and snow for months on end. Theres many things to do and see if you bother to look and there is no reason to be bored or in despair unless your a drug addict begging for change on E. Hastings and if thats the case you would be just as miserable no matter what city you happened to be in.

I dunno, maybe I find it so livable because I'm an introvert and don't need to rely so heavily on other people to feel good about my world. Even if I was an extrovert to the extreme, I find it impossible to believe that there are NO honest, intelligent and good natured people in the entire city and surrounding region because its simply not true. After all, I live here now. : D

We are bored too. That's why we blog about trying to un-hate Vancouver. We have given it our best shot to like it here. We've hiked, dined, beached, sat under S.A.D. lights, latteed, etc. And yet there is a constant emptiness. And it's hard to pinpoint what exactly causes it (all of the above posts). Come visit our blog and commiserate.
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I'm surprised someone like Jeff is hopelessly defending this place.. actually, I'm not really surprised.. I'm baffled. Why bother Jeff? Why the hell should you care that the lot of us have found better places?

I've lived here for 3 years, sort of on and off for the school years. I go to Emily Carr 'University' and must endure the scrutiny of 1,500 of the nations young benighted idiots teetering on stereotypical hipsterism instead of creating an intelligent discourse on critical theory. I transferred from a real university from a real province in a real community. I don't regret my time spent here, but man oh man am I ever ready to leave.

And the Olympics.. "Tacky Party" was a really great description of the whole event. God.. how embarrassing!

Best place on earth? Anywhere on the planet where you might see an elaborate array of patchwork over all mountains and valleys within your peripheral vision (or you know, East Hastings, most First Nations reserves, the average-sized clear-cut, etc.) should actually see the world before making such a vacuous and presumptuous statement like this.

I've lived in/around Vancouver my whole life. The city has REALLY changed in the last 15 years. It used to be laid-back and people were nicer. With the hollywood north crap and everything else, there's no question this place has become more status-oriented. As far as coldness that's also true, but that's due in large part to the transient nature of the population here. Very few people stay in one place for long.

If the nightlife is your thing, you're better off in TO or Montreal or other places. However, there are pockets of the city where you can still meet good people. I usually tell folks to get out of living in any area with "west" in it (end, side, Van) and get out of Kits. THat'll go a long way. The drive and Strathcona still have some sense of community, as do some areas of the burbs in North Van & the Heights in Burnaby. From what I've heard, Squamish & Victoria are also easier for meeting people. Sorry to anyone who has had a rough go of it. It's a tricky place, I know.

MOVE!

If you don't like Vancouver...MOVE! I moved here with nothing, by choice. I love Vancouver for my owns reasons. I will not try to convince anyone why they should stay if they don't like it. Because they are those miserable people that everyone is complaining about and they should move to a place where they can be happy.

It's not just Vancouver. I just don't like people who complain about where they live. We are all very fortunate to be able to move where we want to, compared to many people in the world. It may not be easy but if people don't like where they are, find somewhere better. If you can't find somewhere better, maybe you will realize where you live isn't so bad.

Also, I love the Asian immigrants ... I married one.

I don't expect that everyone likes the same food, music, hairstyles or anything. We should do what makes us happy, and if you aren't happy make a change. If you don't like Vancouver you should either do something to improve the community where you live or go somewhere else. Life is too short.

My wife and I have traveled the world extensively and we think Vancouver is the best place to live, FOR US!! We loved every city we traveled to from Calcutta to La Paz. They were great places to visit and I would love to visit them again. But there is nowhere I've been that I would rather live. That is only my opinion, but it works for me. I hope that everyone is fortunate enough to find a place where they really like to live.

Or maybe we need to ship more Latinos here, like Dan said in the last post. That will make everything better.

So "Don't Move to Vancouver" is very good advice. Maybe check it out first, because apparently there are a lot people angry people who hate it here.

Vancouver would be a lot nicer if all the whiners left. Or didn't move here in the first place.

That last comment was just mean. Though I glad I'm only a marginal idiot.

I would like to thank you (I hate Vancouver)for leaving Vancouver. It think that might make this a happier place for all. I am saddened by the fact that you took 11 years to figure it out, though. I hope you find happiness.

I am now simultaneously berating myself for having remained in such a truly awful dump for many years , and congratulating myself for organising myself to get out. I am a very positive, socially active and well-liked person and do my best to find the positive in every situation and almost always succeed, who did my best to like Vancouver, and after many years of trying, found it not only to be dull, empty, extremely dishonest and cold, but actively draining and damaging spiritually and psychologically.

Worst of all it is a city full of desperately unhappy , angry women ... trying to shoulder-check men off the sidewalk in Kitsilano...I am a man who loves women and I often found myself on the brink of nausea, by watching how women behave in Vancouver, everything from how the younger women stagger around in the heels they don't know how to walk in, drunk, and screaming , making loud, guttural animal noises, and thinking that they are "sexy" , to the uptight, self-righteous, clueless, brittle and lonely 30-50 professional crowd, having desperate paint-by-number dinner parties and pretending to have a real connection with other people, and wondering why relationships don't last or mostly even begin for most of them...... to the 50+ angry , grimacing trolls, who pathetically think men are still looking at them in their dowdy splendour and think their attempts at the seemingly forgotten art of smiling result in a real smile while in fact it's an upside down smile, smelling strongly of vinegar...as they gun their rusty red minivans to try and prevent male drivers from changing lanes in the traffic.

You can hear the tension in their voices and the strain in their eyes as they talk about the "great weekend" they had , by aping some kind of holiday brochure charade , like having "martinis" on their soggy balcony, and copying each other screaming like a 12 year old, in an attempt to sound "young and free" , well.. guess what ladies, you Vancouver girls are so truly , truly awful, even the memory of you has a rancid stench , I'm so , so glad to be far away from you..in a place where women are normal and therefore the fabulous creatures they are supposed to be .

Haha, I found the one good one in Vancouver and stole her away.
(BTW she is overjoyed to be where we are now , instead of Vancouver, and our life is wonderful, happy, social, and decent weather doesn't hurt either. Look don't get my wrong, Vancouver is a great place for retirees and superficial soulless people, angry vegans, and people who like to kayak competitively, lonely hikers and joggers, and people who prefer "activity partners" to actual friends, ...also a great place for lesbian activists and the disabled , ( I'm serious , not being facetious) , but if you aren't in one of these categories it's horrible.

Oh ouch, Rob and Eric; rejection hurts, doesn't it? I can't imagine why either one of you would have been shot down (many times, it seems).

You sound so enlightened, intelligent, respectful and an all-around good time. I'm shocked that Vancouver women of all ages aren't throwing themselves at you -- or at least slowing down their rusty red minivans enough to allow you to cut them off.

It's a real head-scratcher.

you have no idea how bad the attitudes are here seriosuly your post just shows it and not just that the women in general are plainas oatmeal. The fact that some people question where are women/ people normal shows you how little they know about the world, little experience they have, and have no clue how strange BC is socially. comments like that to me prove how small townish and small minded vancouverites really are, truly a backwards place

bif: you know nothing about me, where I am from, or where I have been. My point is that any man, in ANY city, who calls women "vaginal garbage" is unlikely to be treated well.

But way to defend some indefensible comments ... and you think we're backwards and "small townish." Time to take a look in the mirror.

and you dont know anything about me either and yes vancouver is filled with small town trash it's a giant hillbilly redneck village. thats just the way it is ,deal with it.

@ Wow!
I've not been miserable since the day I left that energy sucking, fake place. In fact, I have had a friend leave right after me because she hates was miserable there too.

"I also just want to say that it creeped me out when that Jeff guy tried to silence the posters complaints about this city by accusing her of having seasonal affective disorder, thank god dozens of more people posted basically the same complaints after her...nice try though Jeff."

Actually it's pretty common and I have that problem. When I was living in Vancouver I would whinge about everything but I was actually just depressed. As soon as summer came everything was better. Obvs this won't be everyone or possibly anyone's case. So if Vancouver is bothering you so much then pack your bags as soon as possible and get out.

Also, some of the guys commenting clearly are going to the wrong places at the wrong time. I know the type of women that are being described but I have loads of friends that definately aren't those women. In fact, I rarely bump into that type when Im back home.

LMAO, this is one of the stupidest things I have stumbled upon in a long time. What an ignorant, biased article.

Eric, so happy that you were able to move away from Vancouver to a place that suits you better. But dude, you're not here anymore -- move on with your life. Focus on that "good one that you stole away" rather than the other women that obviously were not a good match for you. Peace.