Counterpoint: Woodwards

  • Posted by Sean
  • Filed in City
  • August 18, 2008
081708_woodwards.jpgA recent discussion has developed on the topic of Woodwards, now that it dominates the downtown's easternmost skyline, by the blog Vancity Buzz whom, despite their unbridled enthusiasm for the project, I commend. I am not anti-Woodwards, something that puts me apart from other advocates for social change such as the AC, a group I've been accused of associated with, albeit falsely. But you must remember that we fought tooth and nail for the meager portions allotted to us, as a single brick facade is all that is left of the iconic department store. The point of the squat was, among other things, immediacy. In Europe, there is a proud tradition of squatting. City planners should view this temporary housing a blessing not a bane, as it fills the vacuum created by whatever historical/political/cultural/social/economic trends that happen to manipulate the urban landscape at the time. In the case of the DTES, the closing of Woodwards will only be mitigated by its reopening. In other words, the only vacuum it will fill is the one originally created when it abandoned the neighborhood.

Furthermore, what is being done to alleviate the condo mania that the Woodwards Development has ignited? So far Paris Block, Ginger, East, Terminus, V6A, and Concord Pacific's recent discovery of the DTES, have all contributed a total of zero units of social housing, while cashing in on the cheap real estate.

Furthermore, how many evictions have occurred since Woodward's? Right next door, the Dominion Hotel was one of the most recent to evict all its SRO tenants. Across the street The Golden Crown had plans to house Olympics workers, a decision that was ruled illegal, but just up the block on Pender, The Piccadilly didn't have the same problem turfing out its renters. Since the Olympic bid process began, over 1,000 units of affordable SRO housing units have either been converted to other uses or shut down permanently (Am Johal).

Furthermore, the Province's purchase of 16 SRO hotels doesn't mean NEW housing. They are just bringing the bed bug infested rat palaces up to a semblance of somewhere fit for human beings to live.

In an October 2007 visit by UN Special Rapporteur on the Right to Adequate Housing, Miloon Kothari stated, "You have in government a legacy of misguided policy decisions which have led to this massive crisis in housing and homelessness. We didn't hear this in other places- the decrepit nature of SROs, the conditions of the buildings that people are living in, the very poor health. As has been the case throughout our visit, I was repeatedly struck by the contrasts in such a beautiful city. Because there has been so much investment, it is striking that a few blocks from million dollar condominiums there is such immense poverty".

But according to the either rosy eyed or naive Vancity Buzz, we're in a time of economic prosperity. But maybe, as with any neo-conservative, neo-Thatcherite government, the same policies that allow for economic prosperity for some, contribute directly to the economic downturn for others. Take the drastic cuts to welfare and a freeze on minimum wage, and you get the tripling of homeless in only a few short years. Does Vancity Buzz dispute the likes of the United Nations, The CCPA, the VPD, Dan Rather, the Regional Steering Committee on Homelessness, UBC Professor Michael Byers, the Carnegie Action Project, and anybody with a keen eye for the blatantly obvious?

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Both the writers of Vancouver Buzz and (some of) their readership seem to support the ideals behind Social Darwinism and Neoliberalism. The most unfortunate part is that they do not see the racist myriad of racist attitudes and practices both have historically and presently promote. I have highlighted the naivety promoted by one readers comment who espouses both Social Darwinism and Neoliberalism as some form of political 'cure-all'. It seems that these people were born with the silver spoon in their mouths, and if not over the years one has slowly worked its way up their assess. See below for my commentary:

"Doesn't anyone believe in survival of the fittest anymore. Fucking morons, those who fuck up financially should have to pay the price. The government should not bail any of these people out with handouts."

It is the ‘Social Darwinist’ comments like this that reveal your true racist naivety. I think that you might want to critically assess your mental state. Speaking of ‘states’, supporting the neoliberal state is nothing new. Why don’t you take your ‘Thatcherian’ mentality and support the invasion and exploitation of ‘third-world’ countries in a very racist ploy to ‘whitewash’ the globe into embracing western political concepts (psuedo-democracy for one or what Alain Badiou calls “authoritarian opinion”) and capitalism.

As for this quote: “why don't you present some ideas maggots?” … I must say, well, very dialectical of you. Social Darwinism and Neoliberalism are certainly not new concepts. Social Darwinism was espoused by Nazi Germany as a tactic and reason for their imperialistic war. Neoliberalism is the democratic means of imperialism where “at best it refers to a patient re-education, at worst to the right of military intervention by democratic paratroopers” (Badiou, 2005, p. 78)*. So, perhaps you should be obliged to come up with some enlightening comments that do not support racism, idiocy, or the further retardation of our social-fabric. Anonymity is a great way to participate in e-democracy too, isn’t it?

* Badiou, A. (2005). Metapolitics: Abrégé de Métapolitique. Verso.

Posted by: Kevin M. Rowe at August 18, 2008 1:02 PM | Quote Comment

I cannot believe the size of that monolith!!
Look how it dwarfs the Dominion Building!!
Vancouver's Dubai District!

Posted by: Excited!!! at August 18, 2008 2:36 PM | Quote Comment

Hey Kevin, thanks for footnoting your post. That free money you got from the (oppresive, racist) government to cover part of your liberal arts education was my money well spent. I'm glad that you used your schooling to learn that anybody who disagrees with you is automatically a racist who wants to invade foreign lands. Anybody who doesn't think the way you do is obviously a terrible person. That's an open mind for you.

Maybe we could all try to intern at Spartacus Books and act like we've accomplished something with our lives too. Maybe if we footnote enough blog comments it means that we've done something with our lives.

Keep telling yourself that, champ....

Posted by: gary at August 18, 2008 3:32 PM | Quote Comment

To be fair, I haven’t done much of anything with my life; however, this doesn’t make this privileged white male worry. I would like to say that my ‘professional’ life is no measure of who I am, and furthermore, my education is not either; although, it has provided me with the ability to critically think, Gary, something that I have found as a useful tool in all of my endeavors.

I am not trying to cut you, my apparent opposition nor anyone else who disagrees with me, down (you disagree with me, although you present no counter-argument?). I will, however, argue against anyone who purports Social Darwinism*, which is innately racist.

If there is something about my discourse that threatens or offends you then by all means skip over my commentary. But if you take the time to actually read it and develop a sound argument against me then I would be glad to hear you out. However, if you prefer to develop a tabloidesque critique of my life, qualifications, and accomplishments based on hearsay and an internet search - then you might want to bide your time on something more constructive because next time I am unlikely to reply.

* Footnote: I footnote so that someone who is reading my writing can research more of what I am talking about. That way they can develop a substantive critique of my arguments. (For example: *see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism for more information).

P.S. If you would like to try your hand at an internship let me know – I am in the process of hiring.

Posted by: Kevin M. Rowe at August 18, 2008 4:12 PM | Quote Comment

Ahh, Kevin. Condescension is the last refuge of a true loser.

This is the internet, fool, not a peer-reviewed journal. Footnotes aren't required. Your diatribe, that you likely spent hours writing, serves to do nothing more than inflate your tattered ego and give you a sense of superiority over others.

My internship days were spent in the last decade and unlike you, I made something of it. I'm gainfully employed at something other than an anarchist bookstore. And I'm nationally-published, so we're not even playing the same sport here, pal.

Your discourse doesn't threaten me, it makes me feel sorry for you. Sorry that you're wasting your life blaming others for problems you don't have the power or knowledge to fix. I'm sorry that you are a giant nobody determined to feel like an Internet somebody.

And I love how you throw around the word racist in a deliberate attempt to make anybody who doesn't agree with you seem like a genuinely bad person. As a Jew, that offends me. In fact, just because I believe in some things that you might twist around and call "Social Darwinism", you feel entitled to call me a racist based on nothing more than an economic opinion. My people suffered thousands of years of racism, something your ancestors didn't do. Do people spray-paint swastikas on your door? Did you get called a kike in high-school?

And now you feel entitled to throw the word racist around to make yourself feel correct?

What do you know about racism? What type of racism have you experienced other than just reading about it? Oh yeah, you imbue yourself with phony causes in an effort to give you an excuse to feel oppressed and give you an excuse for the failure you call Kevin Rowe's life. I bet you've seen a lot of racism and certainly read about lots of it. But you don't understand the term. You've never experienced it. You have a lot of nerve.

But then again, you're just a kid who can't pay his bills. Nerve is all you got, buddy. And it's certainly not your fault is it?

Posted by: giry at August 18, 2008 4:44 PM | Quote Comment
Your diatribe, that you likely spent hours writing, serves to do nothing more than inflate your tattered ego and give you a sense of superiority over others.

The pot meets the kettle and hilarity ensues.

Posted by: notgiry at August 18, 2008 5:05 PM | Quote Comment

What was their a two for one special on pissing in cornflakes today? Wahhhhhh.

Posted by: Scott at August 18, 2008 6:10 PM | Quote Comment

Contrary to popular belief, developers do have the right to develop land how they see fit as long as the zoning is there for it. So if they want buy up land to reclaim Vancouver's downtown core, so be it. Woodwards is the first step of that. The SRO hotels are an outdated form of residence and need to be either demolished or renovated properly and rented on a realistic level.


The fact of the matter is that even if the province's plan of renovating and running the SRO hotels they bought, it'll still turn to crap because the residents won't respect it.

Call me a heartless bastard, but I work hard to pay my rent and save for dreams. Why should someone who dropped out of school to support their drug habit, which is a choice, be on handouts from the government and receiving cheap rent seven minutes from georgia and burrard?

Posted by: Mark at August 18, 2008 6:16 PM | Quote Comment

lol @ internet tough guy

Posted by: notgiry aka Christopher Olson at August 18, 2008 6:23 PM | Quote Comment
Mark: Call me a heartless bastard, but I work hard to pay my rent and save for dreams. Why should someone who dropped out of school to support their drug habit, which is a choice, be on handouts from the government and receiving cheap rent seven minutes from georgia and burrard?

OK. You're a heartless bastard. Why? Why do we help the downtrodden? Is everyone in the DTES a high school dropout? What about those with learning disabilities? Those who were put through the foster care system? Thse with mental illness? Those who got raped at Residential School? Those born addicted to heroin? Immigrants who make minimum wage? Those with no family? Those with AIDS?

We take care of them because WE ARE COMPASSIONATE. We are Canadian. THATS WHY.

Posted by: sean Orr at August 18, 2008 6:23 PM | Quote Comment

I'm glad that you can stand up for all of those disaffected people from behind a sandwich counter in Yaletown. I'm glad that your definition of compassion involves a blank cheque that conveniently doesn't have you name on it.

Posted by: Alan Peterson at August 18, 2008 6:33 PM | Quote Comment

Just so you can't jump on the typo, you should say "your"

Because we all know you were goin' there first.

Posted by: Alan Peterson at August 18, 2008 6:37 PM | Quote Comment

"I'm glad that you can stand up for all of those disaffected people from behind a sandwich counter in Yaletown."

Fuck you and your Ad Hominem attacks. You are a TROLL! Where I work is irrelevant to my level of caring. What an absurd notion. In fact, it is people who are in the lowest positions of authority who often care the most. If it was the other way around, we wouldn't have to constantly 'speak truth to power'.

Posted by: sean Orr at August 18, 2008 6:40 PM | Quote Comment

People are judged by what they accomplish, not by what they talk about.

And yes, I'm a troll. And a darn good one at that.

Posted by: Alan Peterson at August 18, 2008 6:45 PM | Quote Comment

so according to your logic, the downtrodden should get preferential treatment because something didn't go their way? I want my check then!

Posted by: Mark at August 18, 2008 7:35 PM | Quote Comment

"People are judged by what they accomplish, not by what they talk about."

Nice tie.

Posted by: sean Orr at August 18, 2008 7:40 PM | Quote Comment

OH SNAP! what a savage burn.

People are trying to accomplish a change in public opinion by talking about things and bringing them to the forefront.
I don't want to dish out money to lazy people, nobody does but I realize as Sean pointed out that the alot of the DTES drug issues are symptoms of something that happened to alot of the people down there somewhere along the line.
Everyone pays taxes, everyones names are on the cheque.
As a moderate person who the heck I am supposed to vote for next provincial election. NDP, no, Liberal, no, Tory, jesus no.
and gary calm the heck down man, lol, Internet boards are just too funny w/ all the 'looser' finger pointing.
Beware the shaky pointing finger, you're projecting.
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Posted by: Chris H at August 18, 2008 7:55 PM | Quote Comment
Mark:

so according to your logic, the downtrodden should get preferential treatment because something didn't go their way? I want my check then!

Yeah, preferential treatment. Getting a 50 dollar check every month totally made getting raped in the ass worth it.

Posted by: sean Orr at August 18, 2008 8:00 PM | Quote Comment

Nice job Internet Detective. Way to click search on facebook, too bad a proper troll doesn't use their real name and uses a generic one like Alan Peterson.

Posted by: Not Alan Peterson at August 18, 2008 8:50 PM | Quote Comment
Not Alan Peterson:

Nice job Internet Detective. Way to click search on facebook, too bad a proper troll doesn't use their real name and uses a generic one like Alan Peterson.

Nice try.

Posted by: sean Orr at August 18, 2008 10:53 PM | Quote Comment

@giry This is the internet - and we can make of it what we want: Footnotes included. Or not.
@mark Developers don't always have the last say. Thankfully (and I think you'll agree in principle) cities and urban planning acknowledge that factoring community into the mix is a critical piece. Woodwards is part of my community, and generally, I'm looking forward to seeing how it contributes (and I do hope it contributes) to my community.
And while some citizens don't give a shit about the homeless, addicts, mentally ill, others of us do. Of all the things my taxes are used for, I sure don't resent putting a roof over someone's head, or (please, god) creating more opportunities for detox and recovery.

Posted by: nancy (aka money coach) at August 18, 2008 11:36 PM | Quote Comment
giry:

What do you know about racism?

The ‘economic’ opinion you hold is racist … “survival of the fittest”, a term and concept used by the Nazis for imperialism and ethnic cleansing, is the keystone of Social Darwinism. Furthermore, conflating a racist concept with economics doesn’t make it less racist. That would be something like claiming that eugenics is appropriate so long as it is for economic betterment (which consequently was a Canadian program). So, you cannot blanket racism with economic opinion.

As for my lack of experience with racism:

Firstly, I grew up in Calgary – a city known for its racism, and of late for its exposure to the Aryan Guard. While I was living there I was involved with several community groups in effort to push the neo-nazi groups out of the city. Furthermore, growing up in an inner-city ghetto most of the people around me were ethnic minorities. I saw, and felt, first hand how racism has affected them and my community. In fact I have experienced racism my entire life.

I apologize for offending you; however, I still think that you should, instead of attempting to insult me through belittlement, develop on an actual argument. Express to me why you believe Social Darwinism is not racist. Why your ‘economic’ appeal is something ‘like’ Social Darwinism and how economics cannot be racist. And lastly, how I twist your words into the idea that they are Social Darwinist?

I should also like to read some of your writing. Where can I find it?


Posted by: Kevin M. Rowe at August 19, 2008 10:18 AM | Quote Comment

according to the city of vancouver, the dtes comprises off 79% men and 68% white people. pretty surprising when you think that these type of people would be the advantaged ones and mental health issues would effect all genders and races equally.

furthermore, why must this city feel like we should keep this ghetto? we are not doing a drug addict a favour by keeping them in this neighbourhood. in my opinion, if somebody is so addicted to drugs that they are licking the cement for crack that they have proven that they are not well and certain civil liberties should be taken away from them to ensure they get better.

its time to gentrify the dtes. the mentally ill should be in the hospital, the drug addicted should be in rehab and the poor and sober can move to surrey (or somewhere there is a job).

Posted by: dj at August 19, 2008 11:10 AM | Quote Comment

Ok I'll bite. Even if the mentally ill should be in the hospital and the drug addicted should be in rehab how do you suggest we deal with the shortage with beds in both types of facilities? Just askin'.

Posted by: Scott at August 19, 2008 6:13 PM | Quote Comment

GAWWWWWWWD!!!!! NOT THE BED BUG LINK AGAIN.......ewwwww!!!!

Posted by: Itchy at August 19, 2008 7:26 PM | Quote Comment

Someone explain to me why the most sought-after real estate in all of Vancouver 'deserves' to go to rehab facilities?!? Beggars can't be choosers! I like the island idea ... or up north. What better way to keep them away from the element than AWAY from it?!? How can you argue that?!?

As for the poor, I do firmly believe subsidized housing is in order, but really - Waterfront? Mountian views? The most historic parts of the city? Get real.

Whatever ... in 2 years everything will be half-price anyway.

Posted by: Why? at August 20, 2008 4:22 PM | Quote Comment

I say gentrify the DTES and build some SRO's in Kitsilano and Point Grey.

Posted by: Chris Hendricks at August 27, 2008 5:04 PM | Quote Comment

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